>> there is a difference because i happen to think that when they go into the room that adam is talking about, not only the presenters will be advocates and so will the participants. >> the secret service agents and-- >> media, because they're in with obama, and we've come so far, every magazine, every newspaper i see, they've come out of the chos set on anti-capitalism, anti-republican, anti-god. they were the-- >> no, no, adam. >> and it's so bad. >> a lot of this is part of being a journalist, you have to know if you're being spun. how many times has-- >> how many times, i don't know, there are plenty of really good journalists out there, the lance armstrong thing, howany times did adam, charlie, some pr guy-- >> and why on health care. >> neil: let her say it. >> let me finish before i backhand you. >> please do. >> neil: let her say it! >> go ahead, dagen. >> we've gotten the phone call or the e-mail saying let me take you to coffee and now the person has an agenda. so, if you go in there, as long as you know that. >> and that's a huge difference between a private one-on-one with a